look at this:
Nativistische Ansätze sagen, dass Menschen eine angeborene Fähigkeit haben, Sprache zu erwerben.
Sprache im Umfeld des Kindes wird zum Teil fehlerhaft produziert. Dennoch sind Kinder nicht irritiert.
—— ‣ Goethe DLL
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...but what the fuck is "incorrect language"?! We seem to assume that just because we can write a top-down grammar of some "language" we now have captured the truth of this language and speakers can now be judged wrong
- ...but what's the point of this? We can simply see that humans like to produce various grunts to affect others, and the listeners engage in something like RPD to vibe what is meant and what they should do now (yell back, hand over the bread, ...)
- ...I am severely confused what the hell universal grammar and all that shit is offering that isn't explained by the four lines above, if you accept speech as random emergent evolution and not some divine gift
- ...but what's the point of this? We can simply see that humans like to produce various grunts to affect others, and the listeners engage in something like RPD to vibe what is meant and what they should do now (yell back, hand over the bread, ...)
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side note, found out directly after writing this: the platonic space relation is apparently something Chomsky is well aware of
- > Noam Chomsky coined the term "poverty of the stimulus" in 1980.[1] This idea is closely related to what Chomsky calls "Plato's Problem". He outlined this philosophical approach in the first chapter of Knowledge of Language in 1986.[2] Plato's Problem traces back to Meno, a Socratic dialogue. In Meno, Socrates unearths knowledge of geometry concepts from a slave who was never explicitly taught them.[3] — wiki
- ...at this point, is this just ⬡ physics envy?
- > Noam Chomsky coined the term "poverty of the stimulus" in 1980.[1] This idea is closely related to what Chomsky calls "Plato's Problem". He outlined this philosophical approach in the first chapter of Knowledge of Language in 1986.[2] Plato's Problem traces back to Meno, a Socratic dialogue. In Meno, Socrates unearths knowledge of geometry concepts from a slave who was never explicitly taught them.[3] — wiki